Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/21/1994 03:20 PM Senate FIN

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  SB  67 -  MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AMENDMENTS                                     
                                                                               
            Testimony  was  presented  by Tom  Koester,  Bruce                 
            Botelho,  and Dave Walker.   CSSB 67 (2d Fin) work                 
            draft "S" was adopted.  CSSB  67 (2d Fin) was then                 
            REPORTED   OUT   of   committee  with   individual                 
            recommendations.   A $200.0  fiscal note  from the                 
            Dept. of  Law, a $278.9 note from Dept. of Natural                 
            Resources, a $331.7 note from  the Dept. of Health                 
            and Social Services, and zero notes from the Dept.                 
            of Fish and Game and the Court System subsequently                 
            followed the bill.                                                 
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce directed that CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 67(FIN)                 
  (Act amending provisions of ch. 66, SLA 1991, that relate to                 
  reconstitution of the corpus of the mental health trust  and                 
  to the manner of enforcement of the obligation to compensate                 
  the trust; and  providing for an effective  date) be brought                 
  on  for  discussion and  referenced CSSB  67 (2d  Fin) (work                 
  draft 8-LS0409\S, 4/18/94, Chenoweth).  Co-chair Frank MOVED                 
  for adoption of  work draft "S."   No objection having  been                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  raised, CSSB 67 (2d Fin), "S" version was ADOPTED.                           
                                                                               
  Co-chair   Pearce   asked   that  representatives   of   the                 
  administration provide a  brief overview  of the new  draft.                 
  BRUCE  BOTELHO, Attorney  General  Designee,  Dept. of  Law,                 
  HARRY  NOAH, Commissioner,  Dept. of Natural  Resources, and                 
  TOM KOESTER, Contract  Attorney for the  Dept. of Law,  came                 
  before committee.  Mr. Koester  advised that changes between                 
  the previous "Q"  draft and the current "S"  version consist                 
  of:                                                                          
                                                                               
       Page 12,  line 20 -  The "Q"  draft did not contain "or                 
       interests."                                                             
                                                                               
       Page 12, Sec. 17-   Per language in the "Q"  draft, the                 
  bill      only  addressed  lands  tentatively   approved  or                 
            patented to the  state on or before  the effective                 
            date  of legislation  passed  in 1978.    However,                 
            lands were tentatively approved or patented to the                 
            state  after  that date.    Under revised  Sec. 17                 
            language in the "S" draft,  the bill now addresses                 
            lands  tentatively  approved  or  patented to  the                 
            state  under the Mental  Health Enabling Act, both                 
            before and after 1978.                                             
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce  next noted a proposed  Amendment designated                 
  "S.1" and asked  for comments from the administration.   Mr.                 
  Koester said that  it is designed  to ensure that lands  the                 
  state has  conveyed to private  third parties are  the first                 
  for which the  trust receives  compensation under the  bill.                 
  They would thus be the first to  be "freed from the cloud of                 
  this litigation."   That is the intent of the amendment.  It                 
  also  provides  that   lands  conveyed   by  the  state   to                 
  municipalities  be the  second lands freed  from litigation.                 
  It prioritizes release  from litigation in favor  of private                 
  third  parties first,  municipalities second,  and remaining                 
  land removed from the trust third.                                           
                                                                               
  Co-chair Frank  MOVED  for adoption  of Amendment  S.1.   No                 
  objection having been raised, Amendment S.1 was ADOPTED.                     
                                                                               
  Senator Kerttula referenced correspondence from David Walker                 
  and read from the third paragraph:                                           
                                                                               
       The administration's proposal presented  in Chenoweth's                 
       work draft CS for Senate bill No.  67 (2d FIN) is not a                 
       settlement.    It purports  to  buy  out the  Trust  by                 
       funding   the  Mental  Health  program.    It  unfairly                 
       characterizes  the   beneficiaries  and   is  in   fact                 
       unacceptable   to  all   the   parties  who   represent                 
       beneficiaries.   It is  unrealistic to  think that  the                 
       measure would be accepted by the Plaintiffs or approved                 
       by the court.  Any negotiated settlement would  be very                 
       different from the proposition outlined . . . .                         
                                                                               
                                                                               
  The Senator  asked if  the proposed  bill would  improve the                 
  state's  position.    Attorney General  Botelho  voiced  his                 
  belief that  the legislation would  "measurably" improve the                 
  state's position in  court.  He acknowledged  the likelihood                 
  of continuing  litigation but  stressed that  the state  has                 
  sought to closely  satisfy requirements in the  1985 supreme                 
  court State v. Weiss decision  calling for reconstitution of                 
  the trust.  The bill also satisfies the latest guidance from                 
  Judge Greene at the superior court level.                                    
                                                                               
  DAVID  WALKER,   Attorney  for  Plaintiffs,  Weiss   et  al,                 
  concurred in comments regarding  active, ongoing, settlement                 
  negotiations  and voiced  his hope  that they would  come to                 
  fruition.  He  stressed that  a negotiated resolution  would                 
  look very different than SB 67.   The proposed bill unfairly                 
  characterizes  the  beneficiaries.     Mr.  Walker  said  he                 
  strenuously  disagreed with  Attorney General  Botelho about                 
  the position in which it places the state.  He stressed that                 
  as currently structured,  the proposed bill  is unacceptable                 
  to   those   representing  plaintiff/beneficiaries   in  the                 
  litigation.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce called for additional testimony on the bill.                 
  None was forthcoming.  The Co-chair  noted recent arrival of                 
  an  additional fiscal  note  from the  Dept.  of Health  and                 
  Social Services and voiced her intent  to move the bill this                 
  date and  follow up  with appropriate  fiscal notes  shortly                 
  thereafter.   Co-chair  Frank advised that he had  asked the                 
  Office of Management and Budget  to review the late-arriving                 
  note in terms of how it would fit into the spending plan.                    
                                                                               
  Co-chair Frank MOVED  for passage  of CSSB 67  (2d Fin)  and                 
  requested unanimous  consent.    No  objection  having  been                 
  raised, CSSB 67 (2d Fin) was  REPORTED OUT of committee with                 
  individual  recommendations.   Co-chair  Frank and  Senators                 
  Jacko and Sharp signed the committee report with a "do pass"                 
  recommendation.   Co-chair Pearce and Senators  Kerttula and                 
  Rieger  signed "no  recommendation."   The  following fiscal                 
  notes were subsequently approved to accompany the bill:                      
                                                                               
            Dept. of Law                       $200.0                          
            Dept. of Natural Resources          278.9                          
            Dept. of Health & Social Services   331.7                          
            Dept. of Fish & Game                  0                            
            Court System                          0                            
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 3:40 p.m.                         
                                                                               

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